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List of Regulated Chemicals (by US DEA)

asewercoon - 18-10-2010 at 14:20

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/index.html
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/orangebook/orang...

List I and II Regulated Chemicals - Alphabetical Order (Orange Book, updated September 2010)
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REGULATED CHEMICAL - LIST NUMBER - DEA NUMBER - CITATION - EFFECTIVE DATE

ACETIC ANHYDRIDE II 8519 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
ACETONE II 6532 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
N-ACETYLANTHRANILIC ACID, salts & esters I 8522 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
ANTHRANILIC ACID, salts & esters I 8530 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
BENZALDEHYDE I 8256 Pub. L. 103-200 4/17/1994
BENZYL CHLORIDE II 8570 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
BENZYL CYANIDE I 8735 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
gamma-BUTYROLACTONE I 2011 Pub. L. 106-172 2/18/2000
EPHEDRINE, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomers I 8113 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
EPHEDRINE - remove exemption for OTC single entity drug product I 8113 Pub. L. 103-200 4/17/1994
EPHEDRINE-remove exemption for OTC combination products and establish a 24 g retail threshold. Threshold remains zero for single entity products. Mail order report requirements imposed. For more info, see 21 CFR Parts 1309, 1310, 1313 I 8113 Pub. L. 104-237 10/3/1996
ERGONOVINE or ERGOMETRINE & salts I 8675 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
ERGOTAMINE & salts I 8676 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
ETHYLAMINE & salts I 8678 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
N-ETHYLEPHEDRINE - superseded by 1994 action I Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
N-ETHYLEPHEDRINE REMOVED Pub. L. 103-200 4/17/1994
ETHYL ETHER II 6584 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
N-ETHYLPSEUDOEPHEDRINE - superseded by 1994 action I Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
N-ETHYLPSEUDOEPHEDRINE REMOVED Pub. L. 103-200 4/17/1994
HYDROCHLORIC ACID (including anhydrous hydrogen chloride) II 6545 57 FR 43614 10/22/1992
HYDROCHLORIC GAS (anhydrous hydrogen chloride) II 6545 Pub. L. 104-237 10/3/1996
HYDRIODIC ACID - superseded by 1990 action II 6695 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
HYDRIODIC ACID I 6695 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
HYPOPHOSPHOROUS ACID, salts (Including ammonium hypophosphite, calcium hypophosphite, iron hypophosphite, potassium hypophosphite, manganese hypophosphite, magnesium hypophosphite, and sodium hypophosphite) I 6797 66 FR 52670 11/16/2001
IODINE - superseded by 2007 action II 6699 Pub. L. 104-237 10/3/1996
IODINE I 6699 72 FR 35920 8/1/2007
ISOSAFROLE I 8704 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
D-LYSERGIC ACID, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomerssuperseded I 7300 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
D-LYSERGIC ACID, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomers* REMOVED 7300 Pub. L. 103-200 4/17/1994
METHYLAMINE and salts I 8520 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
3,4-METHYLENEDIOXYPHENYL-2-PROPANONE I 8502 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
N-METHYLEPHEDRINE, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomers I 8115 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
METHYL ETHYL KETONE (MEK) or 2-BUTANONE II 6714 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
METHYL ISOBUTYL KETONE (MIBK) II 6715 60 FR 19509 5/19/1995
N-METHYLPSEUDOEPHEDRINE, salts, optical isomers, salts of optical isomers I 8119 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
NITROETHANE I 6724 Pub. L. 103-200 4/17/1994
NORPSEUDOEPHEDRINE, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomers I 8317 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
N-PHENETHYL-4-PIPERIDONE (NPP) I 8332 73 FR 43355 4/23/2007
PHENYLACETIC ACID, esters, and salts I 8791 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
PHENYLPROPANOLAMINE, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomers I 1225 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
PHENYLPROPANOLAMINE-remove exemption for certain OTC transactions. Retail threshold of 24 g established for products not distributed in blister packs. Mail order report requirements imposed. For more info, see 21 CFR Parts 1309, 1310, and 1313. I 1225 Pub. L. 104-237 10/3/1997
PIPERIDINE and salts I 2704 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
PIPERONAL I 8750 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
POTASSIUM PERMANGANATE II 6579 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
PROPIONIC ANHYDRIDE I 8328 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
PSEUDOEPHEDRINE, salts, optical isomers, & salts of optical isomers I 8112 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
PSEUDOEPHEDRINE -remove exemption for certain OTC transactions. Retail threshold of 24 g established for products not distributed in blister packs. Mail order report requirements imposed. For more info, see 21 CFR Parts 1309, 1310, and 1313. I 8112 Pub. L. 104-237 10/3/1997
RED PHOSPHORUS I 6795 66 FR 52670 11/16/2001
SAFROLE (includes sassafras oil) I 8323 Pub. L. 101-647 2/27/1991
SODIUM PERMANGANATE II 6588 71 FR 60823 12/18/2006
SULFURIC ACID II 6552 57 FR 43614 10/22/1992
TOLUENE II 6594 Pub. L. 100-690 3/18/1989
WHITE PHOSPHORUS (Other names: YELLOW PHOSPHORUS) I 6796 66 FR 52670 11/16/2001


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asewercoon - 18-10-2010 at 14:28

Regulated Chemicals - Illicit Uses and Threshold Quantities


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ScienceSquirrel - 18-10-2010 at 14:49

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
There are limits on chemicals in the UK and EU but a lot of chemicals are routinely available despite controls.
At the end of the day; acetone, sulphuric acid, diethyl ether, hydrochloric acid, etc have important light industrial uses,
I run a 40 litre brewery that is near commercial.
I use kilograms per year of bleach to clean the brewing vessels and the barrels used to store the beer.
Small pottery shops, welders and plenty of others need chemical supplies.
Choke off the supply of materials they need and either the jobs they support or could create will not exist.
The USA also needs jobs and a traditional source of jobs is small start ups that grow.
Lots of regulations, no start ups and no new jobs....

asewercoon - 18-10-2010 at 15:13

absolutely right.. and if you have good intentions with these chemicals, you need not worry.. these chemicals however although not illegal, are regulated and watched, and will get you scrutinized..

just trying to provide some general info i didnt see posted elsewhere here. :)

entropy51 - 18-10-2010 at 15:37

Quote: Originally posted by asewercoon  
absolutely right.. and if you have good intentions with these chemicals, you need not worry.. these chemicals however although not illegal, are regulated and watched, and will get you scrutinized..

just trying to provide some general info i didnt see posted elsewhere here. :)
You didn't "see" it posted elsewhere? Where did you look? If you put "DEA" and "List" in the forum search box, you will see that this is quite old news.

UTFSE.
Quote: Originally posted by asewercoon  
search it yourself.. didnt find it listed on this site..


Welcome to Science Madness, you little twit!

It seems you may not understand the concept of "Threshold Quantity". Thanks for educating us.

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UKnowNotWatUDo - 18-10-2010 at 15:45

Oh I get it. You found the site, decided that none of us would POSSIBLY know what in the world a watched or listed reagent was, and decided to be the biggest newb in the world by simply copying and pasting this list from another site onto this one. No doubt to "warn" us amateur chemists that if we were to be as as stupid as you appear to be and try to order a 30kg barrel of methylamine to cook up ourselves some m3th then something BAD might happen. God, thanks for the heads up. I wonder why in the world you didn't see that giant ass pic/list posted anywhere else here on this site...

asewercoon - 18-10-2010 at 16:14

search it yourself.. pages deep i didnt find it listed on this site.. seemed like one it should be on.
and as far as it being OLD NEWS? that would be any posting of these lists prior to the revised edition just released last month. stay on your p's and q's.

also i posted the controlled substance list too, flame me. i copied it from the pdf's off the DOJ site, the ONLY site currently online that has this information up to date. made a nice text list so a search on this site for a chemical thats on it would bring the lists up as a warning; and made jpg's of the pdf's for easier readability/archival purposes.

if you have something to add thats useful, well, you probably wouldve done that then... kudos.

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spirocycle - 18-10-2010 at 17:06

^ being useful would have been noting changes

Rogeryermaw - 18-10-2010 at 17:21

useful would be reading the rules about posting enormous pictures that stretch the page beyond readable bounds...

asewercoon - 18-10-2010 at 17:41

you're welcome.

obviously if one cannot glance at the list and notice changes outright, then it is not as general knowledge to some as others; and a comprehensive, updated list should be kept onhand so that users may see if it affects their hobbies.
Quote: Originally posted by Rogeryermaw  
useful would be reading the rules about posting enormous pictures that stretch the page beyond readable bounds...

thats what she said.

Rogeryermaw - 18-10-2010 at 17:46

one of the general understandings here is that no one gets spoon fed. it is generally understood that if you have the intelligence to handle chemicals then you should also have the intelligence to do a little research. this list exists in many threads and it should have been posted to one of those to reduce the mountains of trash we have to wade through to find information that is actually useful.

mnick12 - 18-10-2010 at 18:05

Im not quite sure what the fuss is all about, personally I like the idea of having an updated list on sm. Not only is it nice, but it is also quite convenient now I dont have to open a new browser to look up these things.

jon - 22-10-2010 at 14:30

what would be especially useful is the special surveillence list and, the chemical combinations that alert the DEA.
would one of the resident agents on this board care to share this information with us???

entropy51 - 22-10-2010 at 15:48

Quote: Originally posted by jon  
what would be especially useful is the special surveillence list

Special Surveillance List
Quote: Originally posted by jon  
and, the chemical combinations that alert the DEA.
Those are most likely obtained using TFSE along with certain select member aliases. You know who you are.;)

jon - 22-10-2010 at 21:29

not to mention there are suspicious quantities below what a particular business would order that sends up red flags.
and entropy, there's a lot of things omitted from that list.


[Edited on 23-10-2010 by jon]

barbs09 - 22-10-2010 at 21:52

This bloke had only the best intentions yet was flamed for his efforts. I am relatively new to this forum, though not science, and those that use such aggressive tones do nothing to make this a pleasant stimulating place to reside and further our pursuit.

jon - 22-10-2010 at 22:04

welcome to sciencemadness!
we are MAD scientists afterall

barbs09 - 22-10-2010 at 22:06

I am not such a nanny to not see the funny side of that comment:)

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entropy51 - 23-10-2010 at 07:00

Quote: Originally posted by jon  

and entropy, there's a lot of things omitted from that list.
Fine, tell us what they are and we will have the complete list.

HydroCarbon - 23-10-2010 at 15:02

Quote: Originally posted by barbs09  
This bloke had only the best intentions yet was flamed for his efforts. I am relatively new to this forum, though not science, and those that use such aggressive tones do nothing to make this a pleasant stimulating place to reside and further our pursuit.


Agreed, no need to rip this guy apart. If you don't like the thread then hit the back button. If you need a way to feel high and mighty, then go flame someone on a different message board.

I found this thread to be somewhat interesting. I know about the lists and all that, but never bothered to search for it and have never seen it laid out in a chart.

SelfStarter - 25-10-2010 at 16:25

Quote: Originally posted by entropy51  
Quote: Originally posted by jon  

and entropy, there's a lot of things omitted from that list.
Fine, tell us what they are and we will have the complete list.


I can give you some examples. I don't see phenyl-2-nitropropene or any substituted phenyl-2-nitropropenes on the list. I am sure that if you attempted to purchase phenyl-2-nitropropene from aldrich you would be immediately reported.

Those are pretty obvious examples. A good rule of thumb is that if it isn't used for anything but making drugs it is most definitely a watched chemical regardless what any list says.

Mister Junk Pile - 26-10-2010 at 13:38
Quote:

Quote:
Originally posted by barbs09 This bloke had only the best intentions yet was flamed for his efforts. I am relatively new to this forum, though not science, and those that use such aggressive tones do nothing to make this a pleasant stimulating place to reside and further our pursuit.


Agreed, no need to rip this guy apart. If you don't like the thread then hit the back button. If you need a way to feel high and mighty, then go flame someone on a different message board. I found this thread to be somewhat interesting. I know about the lists and all that, but never bothered to search for it and have never seen it laid out in a chart.


Agreed. What are we a bunch of gorillas (answer: evidently yes)? A simple explanation of what was wrong with his post would suffice. I found this rather redundant but he meant well and he should not have been met head on with our all-too-common chest beating.

Entropy, could you please at least try to stop being so abrasive? It doesn't seem to be very conducive to a pleasant forum environment. People make mistakes. I would say I'm very good at "UTFSE" and do so the majority of the time. Do you think it would be appropriate to "scream" "USE THE FUCKING SEARCH ENGINE" to me for a simple mistake? If so, perhaps it's time to learn how to better treat other human beings.

asewercoon - 30-10-2010 at 09:48

nice (special surveillance list) i forgot that existed. any more official lists out there?


but yea i started these threads because its nice to know the technical boundaries and have these discussions.. i guess really like was said dont be a fool. i even have a poster a friend got from the office room of a gas station years ago, that was from the sheriffs department telling the clerks to watch purchases of everything from coffee filters to rock salt.

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Rogeryermaw - 1-11-2010 at 20:40

i didn't flame any one. i simply pointed out some rules that have been related to me since i started here regarding the size of pictures and research versus spoonfeeding. that being said i do appreciate the effort and the idea but i also hope that those of us who do practice this particular art, while being careful, will realize, that unless you stick to the baking soda volcano, you will be under scrutiny. most people in their padded room reality are just looking for a witch to burn at the stake so even if your chemicals are not on these lists, the fact you have taken an interest in chemical reactions has placed your head on the block.

Magpie - 2-11-2010 at 08:05

Quote: Originally posted by Rogeryermaw  
... but i also hope that those of us who do practice this particular art, while being careful, will realize, that unless you stick to the baking soda volcano, you will be under scrutiny. most people in their padded room reality are just looking for a witch to burn at the stake so even if your chemicals are not on these lists, the fact you have taken an interest in chemical reactions has placed your head on the block.


I often feel this way myself...then I wonder if it is just paranoia...too much reading of this board, etc. However, I never talk about chemicals per se with my aquaintances. I just say I'm doing metallurgical testing of ores or making dyes. Eyes glaze and they soon lose interest. If they only knew what chemistry was involved in the making of mundane products.

asewercoon - 24-11-2010 at 03:44

would be blasphemy to not copy/paste this into this thread. ;)

Special Surveillance List - http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/chem_prog/advisories/surve...
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This includes all chemical mixtures and all over-the-counter (OTC) products and dietary supplements which contain a listed chemical, regardless of their dosage form or packaging and regardless of whether the chemical mixture, drug product or dietary supplement is exempt from regulatory controls.

Ammonia Gas
Ammonium Formate
Bromobenzene
1,1-Carbonyldiimidazole
Cyclohexanone
1,1-Dichloro-1-fluoroethane (e.g. Freon 141B)
Diethylamine and its salts
2,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine and its salts
Formamide
Formic Acid
Hypophosphorous Acid
Lithium Metal
Lithium Aluminum Hydride
Magnesium Metal (Turnings)
Mercuric Chloride
N-Methylformamide
Organomagnesium Halides (Grignard Reagents) (e.g. ethylmagnesium bromide and phenylmagnesium bromide)
Phenylethanolamine and its salts
Phosphorus Pentachloride
Potassium Dichromate
Pyridine and its salts
Red Phosphorus
Sodium Dichromate
Sodium Metal
Thionyl Chloride
ortho-Toluidine
Trichloromonofluoromethane (e.g. Freon-11, Carrene-2)
Trichlorotrifluoroethane (e.g. Freon 113)

Equipment:
Hydrogenators
Tableting Machines
Encapsulating Machines
22 Liter Heating Mantels


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