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Fermentation.

FGP - 15-1-2004 at 07:09

A fermentation using rye bran used to be a method of producing a 'sour' in early bleaching (1800s). Can somebody on this forum tell me which acid compound ultimately resulted from this process?
Thanks.
FGP in UK.

AngelEyes - 15-1-2004 at 08:29

Just a guess but maybe...ethanoic (acetic)?

Maybe they just let it ferment and then react with atmospheric O<sub>2</sub> to get their acid.

Seems like a waste of good alcohol to me though...

chemoleo - 15-1-2004 at 08:32

Another one may be Lactic acid - together with acetic acid those are the two most likely ones.

It's hard to do more than guessing with so litle data!

guaguanco - 15-1-2004 at 08:59

Yes, acetic and lactic are the most likely fermentation products.

Quote:
Originally posted by chemoleo
Another one may be Lactic acid - together with acetic acid those are the two most likely ones.

It's hard to do more than guessing with so litle data!

Tacho - 16-1-2004 at 10:17

I vote for lactic. :)

FGP - 18-1-2004 at 04:38

Quote:
Originally posted by Tacho
I vote for lactic. :)

Surely lactic acid comes from milk, not fermented bran?
Fred.

I am a fish - 18-1-2004 at 05:47

Lactic acid is an extremely common biological acid. It isn't just found in milk.

PHILOU Zrealone - 1-6-2004 at 13:48

If you use good conditions and select species; you could get as much compounds as you want by playing on all parameters:
-T
-O2 or not
-N2 sources
-C sources
-S sources
-...
-pH
-Osmotic pressure
-Food
-Preactivation or not.

All the above provide environement stress factors influencing the biochemical pathway...anabolism and catabolism.

-Starting material
-Starting microorganism

From this one can get nearly anything from anything...
-Amines from nitrocompounds.
-Cetons
-polyols
-aminoacids
-peptides
-carboxylic acids (tartric, citric,oxalic,acetic, formic,glutaric,....)
-alcohols
....
All te above have been obtained by fermentations.

;):P;):P
But the hardest work is to study, isolate and regulate the media to get the best yield.