Sciencemadness Discussion Board - More 'meth making' chems banned in australia.

More 'meth making' chems banned in australia.

astroturf - 4-11-2009 at 04:49

this is pretty shit:

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/chemical-ec...

SIXTY chemicals! I don't know if I can even think of 60 chemicals on top of the ones that are already banned. I can't find the list that they speak of.

Tsjerk - 4-11-2009 at 04:58

H2O!

A widely used solvent in illicit drug chemistry.

hissingnoise - 4-11-2009 at 05:06

It seems like Australia is an island in more than one sense of the word, but, on the plus side home-chemists there will soon outstrip the rest of us in ingenuity and creativity. . .

Ramiel - 4-11-2009 at 05:23

Code:

http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/R/CONTROLLED%20SUBSTANCES%20(GENERAL)%20REGULATIONS%202000/CURRENT/2000.199.UN.PDF

Knock yourself out (facepalming).

watson.fawkes - 4-11-2009 at 06:29

The PDF referenced is mostly just definitions and the schedules, not the full text of the law. The way the schedules are formatted, it appears there may be de minimis exemptions, that is, small quantities are not proscribed. Someone with the text of the law and the will to read it may want to reply.

entropy51 - 4-11-2009 at 06:38

I believe the link above is the old list. I think the new 2009 list is here. I can't see that they've identified the 60 additions explicity.

JohnWW - 4-11-2009 at 07:06

It looks as if South Australia has now caught the disease of drug paranoia, which has infected West Australia and Queensland. The SA Pigs are, as the result, now on track to match the WA and Queensland Pigs for corruption.

psychokinetic - 4-11-2009 at 12:21

Quote: Originally posted by Tsjerk

H2O!

A widely used solvent in illicit drug chemistry.

We should ban bread too. Approximately 90% of criminals have been known to use bread.

hiperion42 - 10-11-2009 at 03:41

Can you really blame meth cooks?
If your realistic and sober you can't ignore the fact
that they just want to make money.

The money they make with selling drugs is the same paper
as the money the factory owner gives to his laborers.

The fact that society is regulating how money is to be earned and how not is substantially absurd.

Look at what kind of a cesspool the financial system is.
It's nothing more then the modern form of mounted ransacking brigandry.

In essence money does not require a specific method to be acquired.
Trying to fully regulate the acquisition of money
is inverting the perverted.

[Edited on 10-11-2009 by hiperion42]

solo - 10-11-2009 at 08:14

Selling weapons and military airplanes and helicopters is a more noble way to make money.....right!.........absurd world we live in.......solo

tetrahedron - 10-10-2012 at 16:10

Quote: Originally posted by entropy51

I believe the link above is the old list. I think the new 2009 list is here. I can't see that they've identified the 60 additions explicity.

i found the current list, with quantities etc:

http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/R/CONTROLLED%20SUBSTAN...

Quote:

magnesium [...] 0.25 kg

strontiumred - 11-10-2012 at 01:25

Well I hope the good folk of Australia don't own any platinum/palladium jewellery.

[Edited on 11-10-2012 by strontiumred]

Hexavalent - 15-10-2012 at 07:22

Speaking of the drugs paranoia, I believe that the Portuguese have made certain drugs completely legal, and this has actually been beneficial - less people are now using them, and previous addicts could feel free to go to the hospital to vet any treatment they needed.

triplepoint - 15-10-2012 at 07:53

Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent

Speaking of the drugs paranoia, I believe that the Portuguese have made certain drugs completely legal.

I believe that Portugal has completely decriminalized personal possession of small amounts of any drug. Those caught with drugs are offered treatment, but not prosecuted.

AndersHoveland - 26-11-2012 at 13:02

Many groups of people are growing resentful at all the regulations and bans in Australia. It's not just amateur chemical experimenters.

chemrox - 26-11-2012 at 15:51

How do you get to the list from that article? I've been hearing about Australia banning HOH, dihydrogen oxide, other water synonyms for years. I've decided it's a "downunder legend." I like it though. I wish it were true to show the futility and absurdity of controlling chemicals.

Mildronate - 27-11-2012 at 14:46

but whyo need so much chemicals to make meth or sextasy?

AndersHoveland - 30-12-2012 at 21:19

It is interesting how some people hold to the philosophy of banning things to solve problems. I vehemently disagree with this, of course.

Obviously any country that resorts to banning anything and everything they think causes problems does not have much of a sense of individual rights and freedoms.

Finnnicus - 6-4-2013 at 00:14

I am starting my home lab in this very hour, but being Australian and reading those articles is deterring me a little. This is something I've wanted to do for quite a while now, but seeing as the banned chems list is just increasing either my national buddies and I have to get a lot smarter, or conform.

Edit:
Funny to see that hydrogen is banned in South Australia haha

[Edited on 6-4-2013 by Finnnicus]

DraconicAcid - 6-4-2013 at 08:41

Quote: Originally posted by Finnnicus

I am starting my home lab in this very hour, but being Australian and reading those articles is deterring me a little. This is something I've wanted to do for quite a while now, but seeing as the banned chems list is just increasing either my national buddies and I have to get a lot smarter, or conform.

Edit:
Funny to see that hydrogen is banned in South Australia haha

They've also banned possession of more than a gram of mercury- how many thermometers is that? Two? At least with hydrogen, you're allowed up to a kilogram. "Yes, officer, we'll just pile my balloons on the scale here, and see if I'm over the limit..."

jock88 - 6-4-2013 at 11:37

Very funny DranonicAcid. But if the officer is smart enough he will turn the scales upside down and weight you Hydrogen that way (- weight of rubber ....I think) and nail you if your over the limit!

elementcollector1 - 8-4-2013 at 07:41

Quote: Originally posted by jock88

Very funny DranonicAcid. But if the officer is smart enough he will turn the scales upside down and weight you Hydrogen that way (- weight of rubber ....I think) and nail you if your over the limit!

Not sure if that would work as well as you think it would. Plus, that would have to be an extremely large scale, and fit in the back of a car.
And the cop would have to know how to convert grams to kilograms.

AJKOER - 8-4-2013 at 17:37

Quote: Originally posted by solo

Selling weapons and military airplanes and helicopters is a more noble way to make money.....right!.........absurd world we live in.......solo

No, governments buying a whole bunch of military airplanes and helicopters in place of books and paying professional scientists to teach is absurd (also economically stupid).