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Ethyl Peroxide

Joshua Gulick - 22-11-2003 at 08:19

Does anyone have a synthesis for ethyl peroxide? Anyone have any info on boiling point of it?

The_Rsert - 1-2-2005 at 11:07

A lab assistend told me:
Ethyl peroxide is really extremly sensitive (as NI3).
A synonym is ether peroxide
It will be build, when ethylether is reacted with air under reflux (catalyst is sunlight).
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Dont't bubble too much air into the ether.
If the concentration of ethlyperoxid is too high, it will explode!
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You can use it in solution of ether.
You can't isolate it, it will explode!

I hope, you ca understand my bad english.:(

I heard, that you can form a more stable peroxide (maybe AP) by reating isopropylether with air under reflux.

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Axt - 1-2-2005 at 19:13

There is no such thing as "ethyl peroxide" only ethyl hydroperoxide, diethyl peroxide (from condensation of the hydroperoxide) and ethylidene peroxide (aka acetaldehyde peroxide). Ether will not take any of these forms.

This is all off topic, if you would like to contest what I just said, take it <a href="http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=1122">here</a>.

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The_Rsert - 2-2-2005 at 09:43

But NI3 is also a impossible stuff, or?

I found this http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:6FkbVCk9Q3UJ:enius.de/schadstoffe/diethylether.html+Ether+Ethylperoxid&hl=de on a German page.
It says exactly what I said!

(I know, this is not the right topic ---> NOW it is the right topic. Chemoleo.)

[Edited on 2-2-2005 by chemoleo]

Axt - 2-2-2005 at 11:45

Check <a href="http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/peroxide.html">here</a> for the mechanics of ethers -> ether peroxides.

I've uploaded an article on methyl hydroperoxide, and some of its derivatives <a href="http://pulse.altlist.com/images/methylhydroperoxide.zip">here</a> (3.3MB, 17pg, German). <br><br>

Theoretic - 6-2-2005 at 10:48

I think he meant diethyl peroxide by "ether peroxide", since diethyl peroxide is just like ether, but with two oxygen atoms between the ethyls instead of one.

Axt - 6-2-2005 at 11:32

Nope. Because the process given was for the peroxide derived from ether, which isn't diethyl peroxide, rather the god awful looking CH3-CH2-O-CH(CH3)-O-O-CH(CH3)-O-CH2-CH3. The ethereal groups are preserved.

[Edited on 6-2-2005 by Axt]