Sciencemadness Discussion Board

Test Site Participation

arkoma - 23-11-2018 at 08:35

Melgar has been working his butt off trying to get the bugs out of our new board. I see NO PARTICIPATION by members. Get over there and try to break it. What is needed.

http://230.63.185.35.bc.googleusercontent.com/talk/index.php...

Tsjerk - 23-11-2018 at 09:09

I spend quite some time trying to find published security flaws online, but everytime some bug is found there is a patch available quickly... This forum software is well maintained and under active development. I wouldn't know where to start in trying to brake it. I guess if the forum transfer is done well and nothing is lost it is good to go.


ninhydric1 - 23-11-2018 at 09:18

Do we have to re-register (and therefore reset) our accounts on the new forum or can we just log in by transferring our current stats to the new forum? I don't want to make any redundant accounts.

Melgar - 25-11-2018 at 14:50

I'm excited to see some initiative being taken! :D

The test site uses a version of the database from June 2016 with all non-public forums wiped, all private messages wiped, and all user passwords changed to "reader". So if you registered after June 2016, you'll have to re-register, otherwise log in with the default password and change it. Note that this version of the site database will eventually be replaced with the live one, so anything posted to the test site now will eventually be removed. I don't know for sure how that will happen, and will need to coordinate with Polverone.

I've been spending time with my family this past week, and haven't been online much.

It seems to be fairly resistant to being broken, but it would be nice to have some feedback as far as what people think of it, and if there's anything they'd like to have added or changed. Presumably, there will be a period of time when both sites exist, which we can use to make sure everything was transferred properly.

[Edited on 11/25/18 by Melgar]

macckone - 25-11-2018 at 18:22

Can we also make sure that there is a backup for data preservation
A final backup of the site would be great.

Melgar - 25-11-2018 at 19:40

Quote: Originally posted by macckone  
Can we also make sure that there is a backup for data preservation
A final backup of the site would be great.

Yes, although that's something Polverone would have to do. But I can't imagine he wouldn't do it, since he's been very adamant that everything that can be preserved should be.

woelen - 26-11-2018 at 00:21

Wow, good to see this!
With this new forum software we could make really good progress to a better user experience.
I think some minor tweaking (e.g. color scheme, layout and other minor things) may be needed, but basically, this looks great and as far as I am concerned we move to it as soon as possible.
We, however, need Polverone's coordination to make this move possible.

arkoma - 26-11-2018 at 15:22

Shameless Bump

Melgar - 26-11-2018 at 18:05

While we're bumping...

I installed MathJax, like this site has. It lets you enter inline LaTeX markup. However, with the new test site, the mhchem plugin for MathJax is also installed, which includes a whole bunch of chemistry-specific functionality. To use it, you need to enter:

Code:
\(\ce{SO3 + H2O -> H2SO4}\)


But now there's bbcode that keeps track of those symbols for you, so all you have to enter is:

Code:
[ce]SO3 + H2O -> H2SO4[/ce]


Also, there's another feature that uses PubChem's chemical identification database to fetch molecular diagram images. So you can put pretty much any string that can be used to identify a chemical between the [mol] and [/mol] tags, and you'll get an image of it. Examples:

Code:
[mol]THC[/mol] [mol]ATP[/mol] [mol]77-83-8[/mol] [mol]caproic anhydride[/mol]


I started to set up an FTP server that would use phpBB login information and upload the files to cloud storage, but I halted that project until I know whether to expect to have access to cloud storage on the production server. Ultimately, that would be Polverone's decision, so better to not jump the gun.

Anyone have any thoughts or feedback on any of that?

Mr. Rogers - 27-11-2018 at 01:18

Maybe do something to incorporate the "flaming O" logo into the new design but revamp it into a more stylized version.

I happen to like the fluorescent green motif myself. Like green slime.

Melgar - 27-11-2018 at 07:37

Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Rogers  
Maybe do something to incorporate the "flaming O" logo into the new design but revamp it into a more stylized version.

I happen to like the fluorescent green motif myself. Like green slime.

I'm not worrying about the style right now, since I'm more of a backend developer. There are a few themes installed now though, and users can switch between them if they want. And if anyone has a phpBB 3.2 theme/style that they'd like to apply to the boards to see how it looks, I'm open to suggestions. I'm glad you like that style though!

When you start making visual changes to the layout, then all of a sudden everyone has an opinion on what color to paint the bikeshed. So it's better to save that part for last.

[Edited on 11/27/18 by Melgar]

Tsjerk - 27-11-2018 at 09:49

Quote: Originally posted by Melgar  


But now there's bbcode that keeps track of those symbols for you, so all you have to enter is:

Code:
[ce]SO3 + H2O -> H2SO4[/ce]


Also, there's another feature that uses PubChem's chemical identification database to fetch molecular diagram images. So you can put pretty much any string that can be used to identify a chemical between the [mol] and [/mol] tags, and you'll get an image of it. Examples:

Code:
[mol]THC[/mol] [mol]ATP[/mol] [mol]77-83-8[/mol] [mol]caproic anhydride[/mol]



I love it!

iExplore - 7-12-2018 at 13:18

Quote: Originally posted by Melgar  

When you start making visual changes to the layout, then all of a sudden everyone has an opinion on what color to paint the bikeshed.

[Edited on 11/27/18 by Melgar]


Don't mind if the bikeshed is red, blue, or green - but please make sure the tacked/sticky/pinned thread icon is actually distinguishable from the normal kind without needing a magnifying glass. :D

fusso - 7-12-2018 at 14:47

Quote: Originally posted by iExplore  
Quote: Originally posted by Melgar  

When you start making visual changes to the layout, then all of a sudden everyone has an opinion on what color to paint the bikeshed.

[Edited on 11/27/18 by Melgar]


Don't mind if the bikeshed is red, blue, or green - but please make sure the tacked/sticky/pinned thread icon is actually distinguishable from the normal kind without needing a magnifying glass. :D
We need 2 contrasting colours of background vs pinning icon for each theme?

Tsjerk - 7-12-2018 at 16:13

Quote: Originally posted by fusso  
We need 2 contrasting colours of background vs pinning icon for each theme?


Do we need any color? I find your color thing annoying.

No one in my time thought it was necessary to use colors and I don't think you made it obvious it was necessary to do so.

Also your font thing is annoying. If you want to express yourself, do it through comments that actually mean something.

Number of comments means shit. I think this has been told to you before

[Edited on 8-12-2018 by Tsjerk]

fusso - 7-12-2018 at 16:20

Quote: Originally posted by Tsjerk  
Quote: Originally posted by fusso  
We need 2 contrasting colours of background vs pinning icon for each theme?


Do we need any color? I find your color thing annoying.

No one in my time thought it was necessary to use colors and I don't think you made it obvious it was necessary to do so.



[Edited on 8-12-2018 by Tsjerk]
You misunderstood me. I mean the colour for the small icons in front of the pinned thread titles.

Tsjerk - 7-12-2018 at 16:25

Sorry, I misunterstood your post.

still mean everthing I said.

Tsjerk - 7-12-2018 at 16:37

can you take your color thing coming with every post you make away?

Velzee - 10-2-2019 at 22:42

Bump!

Speaking of passwords...It says I already have an account, yet this is the first time I'm seeing this site...And I tried all of the forgot password options, but it doesn't recognize any of my passwords nor emails...

j_sum1 - 10-2-2019 at 23:10

Quote: Originally posted by Velzee  
Bump!

Speaking of passwords...It says I already have an account, yet this is the first time I'm seeing this site...And I tried all of the forgot password options, but it doesn't recognize any of my passwords nor emails...

Here lieth the answer to all of your questions: upthread.

Velzee - 11-2-2019 at 13:41

Ah, my sleep deprived mind didn’t see that while reading the comment; thanks!

Jackson - 11-2-2019 at 16:36

Okay for some reason all the different sub forums of the test site are restricted content on apple products with restrictions enabled.

mayko - 11-2-2019 at 16:47

A positive side effect of the spam barrage has been that old & obscure threads, including some I don't think I'd seen before, have been churned to the front page and gotten new exposure. Maybe this could be a feature, like a grab bag of three random threads at the bottom of "today's posts".

Loptr - 11-2-2019 at 17:10

So when would this go from a test site to the actual site? Is there an actual plan? Is Polverone on board with this?

Abromination - 22-2-2019 at 19:30

I would appreciate if users as myself who joined in early 2018 could join without re registering, but I understand the reasoning.

Tsjerk - 23-2-2019 at 03:20

I guess that if the real switch is done it will be done with a recent copy of the site and that it will contain the recent registrations and u2u's.

WangleSpong5000 - 2-3-2019 at 16:57

I'm going to try to break it... I don't know much about this sort of thing but I know a little

WangleSpong5000 - 2-3-2019 at 17:52

I'm going to try to break it... I don't know much about this sort of thing but I know a little

Tsjerk - 3-3-2019 at 03:15

Good luck ;)