Sciencemadness Discussion Board - Thorpe's Dictionary of Applied Chemistry after 4th edition?

Thorpe's Dictionary of Applied Chemistry after 4th edition?

Polverone - 18-4-2008 at 20:03

I know that the fourth edition of Thorpe's was prepared after his death. It is the last edition that I can find any record of. Was the same work enlarged/continued under another name after the 4th edition, or was it a dead end? I'm considering buying the 4th edition and scanning it, but I wonder if I'm neglecting a later, yet-more-comprehensive work because of changes in author and/or title.

Polverone - 28-4-2008 at 15:36

I certainly hope that silence was equivalent to denial of a later edition

The_Davster - 28-4-2008 at 15:43

Nice cats!

The books are awesome too

I had one of the set at one point (3rd edition?), but I got rid of it make space for others, I have issues with owning only one book of a set...It feels weird to me.

[Edited on 28-4-2008 by The_Davster]

Polverone - 28-4-2008 at 18:31

I feel weird about owning only parts of sets too.

Google Books and the Open Content Alliance will take care of the earlier editions of Thorpe's, so the 4th is the only edition I need to handle. It is a lot, though.

argyrium - 29-4-2008 at 09:10

Polverone,

It appears that you are fortunate to have the complete set of 11. I have been trying to acquire Vol. XI for years (at a reasonable cost).

JohnWW - 10-12-2008 at 07:28

A Dictionary Of Applied Chemistry, edited by Edward Thorpe

The 5-volume First edition of 1912 can be downloaded from:

http://ia340907.us.archive.org/2/items/dictionaryofappl01tho... 134.34 Mb
http://www.archive.org/download/dictionaryofappl02thorrich/d... 139.97 Mb
http://www.archive.org/download/dictionaryofappl03thorrich/d... 132.38 Mb
http://www.archive.org/download/dictionaryofappl04thorrich/d... 119.64 Mb
http://www.archive.org/download/dictionaryofappl05thorrich/d... 145.18 Mb

Volume 1 only of the 1912 edition is also at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3478360/Thorpes-Dictionary-of-Appl...

It is discussed on http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?p=103591#pos... ; Megalomania there has the 7-volume Second edition, published from 1921 to 1927.

The much-expanded and revised 11-volume Fourth Edition that Polverone has was the last, published from 1950 to 1957, after the Third Edition in 1941. Have you made any progress in scanning it to files since April, Polverone, please?

[Edited on 11-12-08 by JohnWW]

smuv - 10-12-2008 at 09:58

I bought them all a few months ago after discovering some volumes on google books. The whole set with an index was 200 bux....shipping from australia...lets not talk about it...

To my knowledge it is the latest work, and if compared to the previous editions has many more volumes.

If you decided to scan them, that would be quite a contribution to the world....but it would be quite a lot of work!

P.S. Cute kitties

[Edited on 12-10-2008 by smuv]

Polverone - 10-12-2008 at 11:17

I have not made much progress in scanning. As you can see from the photograph, some volumes are extremely thick. The bindings are stiff too. I cannot put these books' pages flat to the scanner glass without severely abusing the bindings.

Don't believe a reference blindly

franklyn - 17-1-2009 at 15:26

The only one you can trust is yourself

I was reading through this page on the NIST site
http://cccbdb.nist.gov/enthformation.asp
to evaluate the relative ease or difficulty of ascertaining heats of formation
for unknown or unreferenced compounds using the methodology shown.
the link to an essential feature , an applet to calculate reaction enthalpy
shows this sample reaction : 2 CH2CF2 -> CH4 + CF4
( the coefficients for each appear below as the / count / )
http://cccbdb.nist.gov/enthcalc.asp
So where are the other two carbons ?
It seems to me that , 2 CH2CF2 -> C2H4 + C2F4 , was intended

Errata that can be cross checked on the spot is tolerable, but
a citation to another reference that is erroneous really fumes me,
as with a recent wild goose chase sponsored by PATR 2700.

Because it is so often viewed and reviewed , the much dismissed Wikipedia
is much less likely to have mistakes.

.

watson.fawkes - 17-1-2009 at 19:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Polverone
The bindings are stiff too. I cannot put these books' pages flat to the scanner glass without severely abusing the bindings.

Plustek OpticBook scanners use optics that only require the binding to open 90°. http://www.plustek.com/product/series.asp?s_id=2

JohnWW - 17-1-2009 at 23:47

Polverone: If you are worried about stiff bindings, in scanning such old books, get Snapter Ice, as described just today on http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?t=6993

It enables an 8+ MP digital camera to be used to scan books, more quickly than with a scanner and with the same quality, with conversion to PDF. It somehow straightens out the photographed images, which from books can be quite distorted, and it can also compensate for dark backgrounds and stained pages. It processes images in a way that makes them appear as if they came from a flatbed scanner. The resulting images are suitable for OCR.

The author could have very well made his software as a Photoshop plugin, but it is a standalone application. He suggests that most of the processing involved in his proprietary algorithms cannot really be performed with an expert knowledge of Photoshop itself. Good for scanning books from a library or other place where bringing your own flatbed scanner would really be inappropriate.

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[Edited on 19-1-09 by JohnWW]

Polverone - 18-1-2009 at 11:31

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnWW
Polverone: If you are worried about stiff bindings, in scanning such old books, get Snapter Ice, as described just today on http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?t=6993

It enables an 8+ MP digital camera to be used to scan books, more quickly than with a scanner and with the same quality, with conversion to PDF. It somehow straightens out the photographed images, which from books can be quite distorted, and it can also compensate for dark backgrounds and stained pages. It processes images in a way that makes them appear as if they came from a flatbed scanner. The resulting images are suitable for OCR.

Thanks for the advice. I will have to try it if I get a newer digital camera. My current camera only does 2.1 megapixels.